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Post by Scooby-Doom! on Sept 29, 2011 16:28:13 GMT -5
It's possible Fred might just keep the name out of habit. I mean legally the mayor had to of done something to make sure nobody would catch on. Perhaps in some weird legal sense Fred really is a Jones. Perhaps the mayor told everyone he was an orphan and thus legally adopted him in which case it would be his legal name. And even if Fred finds his real parents would he really change his name, would he even stay with them? I mean mentally their not his parents, he grew up believing otherwise and so he may never actually accept them as his parents, its hard to say what might happen. It's possible, but fred seemed really betrayed (which is perfectly understandable) by the mayor. It makes me wonder if he'd want to keep the name and the association to the mayor or, at the very least, just go by say fred chiles(not sure on the spelling) in honor of his parents. Well he found out that what he believed growing up is just a bold faced lie. I think that would change who he feels like he is down to his very core. It's not as if he was simply put up for adoption and the mayor picked him. The mayor kidnapped him and blackmailed his parents into banishment, I think fred may feel a stronger bond to 2 people he knows nothing about then the man who lied to him for almost 20 years. It's very hard to say what will happen, but it will be VERY interesting none the less. |
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Post by strangely on Sept 29, 2011 18:06:21 GMT -5
Even though he felt betrayed that doesn't erase his history with the man he thought was his father. Regardless of the great wrong the mayor committed he still loved Fred like a son and Fred loved him as a father, the fact is that a great betrayal doesn't erase their history together.
And regardless of feelings his identity may still be Fred Jones regardless, legally that's how he's recognized, if he wanted to change his name he'd probably have to prove it to a court. I mean its obvious the mayor had to cover up the kidnapping, and to go to school and all those things Fred would need identification. Fred Chiles may have never existed to begin with, we don't know if his parents were using alias' at the time to cover up their history (Cassidy created a fake persona, so all the others probably did too), the identity his parents set up for him may be just as fabricated as the mayors. The fact is Fred may not really have an actual, legitimate, identity (Like I said if he wanted to change his identity he'd have to go through a lot of government crap to establish a real identity).
And even with the Chiles being his real parents that doesn't mean he'll have an instant relationship with them. After all he may be bitter that his parents never rescued him, I mean how hard would it have been to kidnap him back.
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Post by Scooby-Doom! on Oct 12, 2011 9:38:10 GMT -5
Well compounded with the fact that the mayor never really supported Fred (at least from what we saw in season one) i think the bond would be more easily broken.
He doesn't have to claim the jones name though.
He can say his name is what ever he wants it to be, he never has to tell anyone what he knows to be his real name.
If he wants to be called Fred Chiles all he has to do is say "Hi, i'm Fred Chiles" and no one will be the wiser, unless of course he's in crystal cove in which case he'll hear this alot "aren't you mayor jones' boy?" but again that would be up to him to deny or not.
That's a very good point! That brings up many more questions as to why they didn't just kidnap him back (like you said) or why they were so afraid of just one man in the first place.
Again, it will be very interesting to say the least.
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Post by strangely on Oct 12, 2011 20:59:56 GMT -5
Really I'd rather he kept it because it's been his last name since the 80's. I grew up with it and I'd hate to see it permanently changed. On top of it if they do change it and keep the change then eventually kids will refer to the character as such, not knowing his original name, and I'll feel older than I am.
Although maybe that's how people felt when they gave them last names in the first place.
For this season I really think we need some Scrappy closure. I mean I dislike Scrappy, but after the reference to him in the first season I kind of got curious about what he's doing in the current continuity. I mean after all we know they faced the Luna ghost, but in this continuity Spooky Island didn't happen, so Scrappy must be up to something else. And their reaction to his statue, while obviously a joke, is still rather puzzling. Plus we know where Flim-Flam is so it only seems right we know what happened to Scrappy.
It would also be nice to know what happened to Shaggy's sister. Come to think about it 'pup' is perhaps the least referenced series so far, which is sort of ironic because it was really the first show that set up their back stories and clearly defined their personalities (I'm pretty sure that was the first series that portrayed Daphne as rich, and Fred's current personality originated in that show to).
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Post by Ross on Oct 13, 2011 7:10:25 GMT -5
I agree, it would be interesting see Scrappy for a episode or two, just to see how they portray him in this show.
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Post by Scooby-Doom! on Oct 13, 2011 8:23:56 GMT -5
Hehehehehe, you know what would be funny? Never address it, but have one of the parents watching the news in the living room while the gang is in the kitchen and we hear "in other news, today notorious child criminal flim flam broke out of prison today. Police advise he may be armed and dangerous. If you see him, keep your distance and call authorities."
Then later during the wrap up of that mystery we see a crowd part a little in the back and see flim flam and scrappy run down the street and around the corner. Never mentioned.
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